Friday, February 13, 2009

Evolution and Dasavataram

As the world celebrates 200th birthday of Charles Darwin on Feb12 ,I take a chance to analyse his theory with my field of interest ,Hinduism.Read the warning ;-) before u proceed...
Warning  : On seeing the label if u think that I ve chosen 'Padmaism' out of self obsession...sorry! The content of this post is a mixture of science,hindu legends,spiritual faith..I was confused to choose a correct label..I tried sci-spi,sci-hi ;-) in the lines of sci-fi,but didn't sound so good...ok suggestions for new label is welcome from readers .Till then padmaism continues.
This post will deal with incarnations of Mahavishnu and compare it with Darwin's Evolution theory..

Even though Bhagavatpuran quotes around 22 avatars, very prominent incarnations described in garuda puran and other texts are ten..so I will deal only with them..
Similarly there are many theories revolving around evolution ..In this post, I will consider only the chronological order of evolutionary theory..researchers say that species to inherit the earth in the initial stages were amoebic and first well defined species is Fish (includes other forms of fish also).
Interesting thing to note is first incarnation of Mahavishnu is 'Matsyavatara' in which lower part of body is fish .Isn't it a striking coincidence? or a reason for believers like me to feel happy?..May be God has always associated with the species of earth in their contemporary form to make them feel at ease .for eg. if he descends now he may take a form of modern ,cool guy to make us feel comfortable..;)

Next descent is 'Kurmavatara' which was in the form of turtle/tortoise, as we go up the evolution tree we see turtles which can live both in land and water,may be that's when transition of water species to land species was taking place.

Third incarnation 'Varahavatara' which was in the form of boar which is a complete land species.As we go up above the evolutionary tree we see wild animals,pigmies, apes and human beings.yes! u got it.

Forth incarnation which was 'Narsimhavatara' , God took the form of half Lion.By this time wild animals had completely inherited the earth..

Fifth one which was 'Vamanavatara' in which God took the form of a dwarf , now my mind associates with pigmies..

From 'Parshuramavatara' human form becoming more prominent.
One among the most famous incarnation and revered form is 'Ramavatara' in which he descended as complete human .May be this was the transition period from apes in which human species just started to appear on earth and this descent was to teach them the correct ideals and principles of way of life.

Those who worry about missing out apes can be satisfied with another interesting fact in 'Hanuman' another revered God in Hinduism..Ape men appear in the famous kishkinda kandam of 'ramayana' .

Eyewitness encyclopedia version 200 describes a certain species 'Homo erectus' which evolved in the transition period.Interesting point to note is that this species were not normal apes which grab eatables from our us ;-)..These species had a brain of 2/3 size of modern humans,but still retained apelike features ,such as receding forehead ,projecting jaws and thick bones. Fossils of Homo erectus species have been found in Asia and Europe as well as in Africa... this species had good brain activity too...

Don't we find an amazing resemblance with our own vanar sena depicted in Ramayana..May be since Hanuman is God by himself,he was far more superior than his clan in terms of knowledge and valour.
Next is 'Krishnavatara' which completely dealt with human species in an intelligent manner ,describing the advanced warfare of that time showing that human species was continuously evolving..
One more interesting fact  Inoticed in encyclopedia was about 'Hominid' species,the neanderthals who had a stocky build,large brain and could use many tools and fire etc ,they are known to have disappeared around 30000 years ago from europe-possibly edged out by competition from 'Homosapiens' that is human beings .Do demons and rakshasas belong to this category?quite interesting to scratch my head in such matters..;)

The total Mahayuga which comprises of all 4 yugas spans around 4,320,000(appr.) years.In first yuga ,average human life span was around 10,000 years (?!!),may be that's why they could undertake lots of tapasyas spanning for 1000 years ??..First 4 avatars took place in this satya yuga ..Hindu puranas gives details of cycles of such Mahayugas where creations and destructions took place..encyclopedia also describes the mass extinctions at the end of 'permean era','jurassic era' and 'cretacious ' periods where large catastrophes took place..

So far so good ,but the confusing and contradictory part arises from calculation of eras or time period mentioned in both puranas and encyclopedia...permian era starts with 350mya to 200mya ..and so on..
Lots of mathematics is involved in both this calculation and comparison of both eras and yugas..Limited capacity of my brain doesn't permit me to do so.. :( ..so I give all freedom to the readers to further get confused in this topic and I sincerely thank u for sharing my confusions and interesting findings;-)..

But one thing to be noted is Darwin was humiliated by the then churches for going against christianity's Creation theory..If Darwin got to study this post then ,he would have felt happy that Hindu scriptures supported and agreed with his idea..;) atleast in some aspects.
Bye..cu in next post...

17 comments:

Sharmila said...

Padma just one query...
where were the women?

Padma said...

Hi shammi tai! Thank u for reading my blog!Women were followers of men;-) on a serious note ,while writing this post i thought about the entire human species,distinction b/w men and women didn't come into my mind at all.may be that is the reason they were left out...ok from my next post i ll reserve a quota for them ;-) ok?bye

Padma said...

Shammi tai!did u miss the label..entire female species is represented in that label;-)

Suha's Blog said...

Padma akka,
Very interesting analysis of the similarity between Dasavatharam and Darwin's theory.This comparison never occured to me before reading ur post.

RAMKI said...

i know only kamals dasavadaram ramki

Rajendra said...

Padma, Poor chap that little Darwin.... Looks like he was only reinventing wheel.
Poor me... I was waiting for some humour to follow. Darwin would would slip & fall & things like that...- Humour is the trademark in your blogs...
Neverthless, good analysis... Keep blogging.....

Padma said...

thank u suha !for reading my blog!appa!pl.change ur first name 'rama' for god's sake..
rajendra!as usual thank u for encouraging me by reading the blog..

Ravishankar said...

All said is well known to me

Raja said...

Ravi..I would have figured out the above comments are yours..even if you had remained anonymous! ;)

Padma said...

raja!to make ravi read the blog was itself an uphill task!expecting a goody goody comment from him?uhh...;)

Nandakumar said...

Padma- This is nanda kumar.If u hv captioned ur blog as padma's brainspace it shd really b blank.Any how some times brain may contain various forms of material jus like a garbage yard.In any case it is good tht u r devoting some time to torture others.
"ulakathileye peria santhosam mathavangala torture panni pakkarudan'

Coming to padmaism - it sounds like a payasam from kerala.the best title wud hv been "deshi darwin".u hv made attempts to link dasavadaram with darwin.ur breachings r like Sakotharan dinakaran,s yesu alaikkirar.
But i appreciate ur devotion to Maha vishnu.Let maha vishnu take eleventh avadaram and try his best to tame u.Good luck maha Vishnu.

Keep writing.I like them.I wl try to start writing soon.Not on darwin but local sarakku.

bye

nandakumar

Padma said...

hi kumar chittappa!Thank u for reading my blog! s! torturing others through blog is the new fashion ;)..my blog will be a mixed sarakku..not always spiritual..about padmaism..i thought somebody will suggest one label..till now no one has suggested..abt padma's brainspace...my brain is an empty space ;)so i ve named like that :)
keep reading my blog and send ur valuable comments! start ur blog!i llbe the first one to read!

Prasanna's Pen Speaks ... said...

Hi Padma...good analysis....i think padmopadesha wii be apt for this type of supreb thoughts...it may be agood story for some cinemas mixture of hollywood and kollywood....u can approach director Ramanarayanan with this type of stories...keep blogging

Prasanna's Pen Speaks ... said...

padmapadesha is good...but edula irundu sutta...

Padma said...

sondhamaa eludharavangalukku enna madhiri oru insult?original aaakkum...bye

Unknown said...

Padma Vahini, this is very interesting...I suggest you should invite my dad to read this. He would love it, I bet. Just one question.... what is 200'mya' and 350'mya'? I don't quite understand that.
And to answer the question where were the women... it's said that God created 'man' first.... the 'master piece' (women) came later:)

Padma said...

'mya' is million years ago (i think so;)) and as a feminist i would disagree ur theory..God created woman first;-)